A QUESTION of by “whose authority”?


Response by Patrick Miron

[QUOTE]

I appreciate all that you wrote; but most of my questions remain unanswered:

Question #1: Is Unam Sanctam, which declares, proclaims, and defines that “it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff,” an infallible teaching?[/QUOTE]

The answer to the last part is YES but only because it states “The Catholic Church” [not the Roman Pontiff”. and relates what the Church has taught nearly forever; It is a Defined Dogma of the RCC and it is this that make it infallible.

BUT it is the Church, NOT the Pontiff [Infallibility MUST be specifically declared] that makes this teaching binding on everyone.

[QUOTE]Question #2: If Unam Sanctam is infallible, did Pope Boniface VIII infallibly define any of the exceptions that are taught today in the CC? [/QUOTE]

Good Question

But not really relevant. While ALL Defined Dogma are unchangeable this means that the BASIC Truth can never change. It DOES NOT mean that the understanding cannot get better and aligned with current needs. Today’s Teaching HOLDS to the Basis Truth while ADDING the POSSIBILITY of other Christians who too have the sacrament of Baptism AND Belief in the Blessed Trinity; and WHO HAVE NEVER been exposed to the truths of the CC; MIGHT, through this sacramental unity and common belief under Precise conditions, also be included THROUGH the CC, in the POSSIBILITY of Salvation.

[QUOTE]Question #3: If Pope Boniface VIII did not define exceptions; at what point in history were “exceptions” infallibly defined? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Partial reply:
Since, Pope Eugene IV seems to be saying the same thing, only more sternly; I think it is fair to ask the same questions about the Bull Cantate Domino of 1441.

Pope Eugene IV:
“The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; [/QUOTE]

Friend, I’m unsure you if you have a right understating of the POWER of the Church to NOT CHANGE; BUT EXPAND understanding as it becomes both Inspired by the HS and made necessary by a changing world? There was and IS NO NEED for “today’s exceptions” because they frankly were not a factor of possible consideration when either of these documents were propagated.

Question #5: If it is infallible, did Pope Eugene IV infallibly define any of the exceptions that are taught today in the CC? I can’t imagine that he did. Who is left after “pagans, Jews, heretics, and schismatics” are professed to be headed into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with the CC.

[QUOTE]Question #6: If Pope Eugene IV did not define exceptions; at what point in history were “exceptions” infallibly defined?[/QUOTE]

SAME as Q #1

[QUOTE]Through these 6 questions, I’m basically asking the same thing Catholic forum members CHESTERTONRULES and ron77nyc asked–I quoted them in post #329.

How did the Catholic Church go from “No salvation outside the Catholic Church” to the exceptions given in the Catechism and other places? No one has answered this; and I’ve given up hope that anyone will.[/QUOTE]

These ARE NOT EXCEPTIONS! They are the result of Historical World-wide changes that NEEDED to be addressed. The Base Teaching of. the CC DID NOT AND CANNOT be changed. NOTICE PLEASE these two passages: Mt. 16:19  “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, [DONE DEAL] and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” These terms MEAN unlimited power of Governance by Gods chose Popes. And in Jn. 20: 21-22 which is the Institution of THEE CC “Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit.” This is an actual transfer of POWER

From Christ to His Church: WITH THE SAME POWERS AND AUTHORITY THAT JESUS HAD ON EARTH.

Anyone seeking more information on The KEYS to heaven, please PM me.

 

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